Help to identify the origin of this Philips Radio (Algemeen)

door edison @, Aveiro - PORTUGAL, 10.01.2023, 16:07 (475 dagen geleden)

Hallo.

I need help to identify the origin of this Philips radio, because the radiomuseum says it is Portuguese and I have doubts that it is.

Philips 592

The radio is similar to the 592LN but the cabinet is not the same.

The schematic, in nvhr.nl site says it is an export model.

My radio is the LNX model.
Pictures from my radio.

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The transformer is not original.

I ask:
This radio was made in the USA, as written on my radio, or not?
If not made in the USA, where was it made?

Many thanks.

Best regards,
Carlos

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From PORTUGAL, with regards
Carlos

Help to identify the origin of this Philips Radio

door aad @, Groenlo, 10.01.2023, 17:56 (475 dagen geleden) @ edison

Hi Carlos,

I've found this: https://www.flickriver.com/photos/madatechhc/8472272681/ and

also referring to the drawing of the mains plug on the backplate the set is USA made.

Best wishes, Aad

Help to identify the origin of this Philips Radio

door edison @, Aveiro - PORTUGAL, 10.01.2023, 21:48 (475 dagen geleden) @ aad

Thank you Aad.

Confirmed that it was made in the USA and not in Portugal, as it is in the Radiomuseum.

Best wishes,
Carlos

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From PORTUGAL, with regards
Carlos

Help to identify the origin of this Philips Radio

door Maurice ⌂ @, Dordrecht, 10.01.2023, 18:19 (475 dagen geleden) @ edison

Why doubt that Philips 592?
Only cause that extra black transformer?

Could be some later modification or repair.
To me they are the same.

USA could be, as of licence to build?
I have a Canadian Philips CM54A
There is also very little common known Philips parts to be found in that.
Tubes are markt as Philips, just a plain Philips stamp
Don't think at all those tube are made by Philips.

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Help to identify the origin of this Philips Radio

door edison @, Aveiro - PORTUGAL, 10.01.2023, 21:52 (475 dagen geleden) @ Maurice

Thank you Maurice.

Is an american radio, and is the model 592LNX.

The transformer must have been applied in a previous repair.

Best wishes
Carlos

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From PORTUGAL, with regards
Carlos

Help to identify the origin of this Philips Radio

door hoedendoosch @, Amsterdam, 11.01.2023, 08:31 (475 dagen geleden) @ edison

Hello Carlos,

because of the outbreak of WW2 Philips could not export radio's from Eindhoven and other factories in occupied Europe. They manufactured radio's in The U.S. and Australia for export to Portugal, Dutch Antilles, (Surinam ?) and Netherlands Indies. It is unclear where these radio's acually are manufactured / assembled, rumours says that these radio's are produced by General Electric on Long Island NY, but I did not find any evidence for that.

In Portugal you can find some Philips radios made in USA:
493AN/HN
494AN/HN
498AN/HN
592LN/LNX
595AN/HN
664VN

AN = AC mains
HN = AC/DC mains
VN = 6 volt battery
LN / LNX meaning not clear.

The difference between the 592LN and 592LNX is the waveranges:
592LN = 16.8 - 63 meter
592LNX = 13.6 - 51 meter

Can you upload a picture of the dial ?

These radio's have my special attention because of the similarity to some radio's exported to The Netherlands Indies (Indonesia).

Regards,
Pim.

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En nao 't straevele ein bietje zônneschien.

Help to identify the origin of this Philips Radio

door edison @, Aveiro - PORTUGAL, 11.01.2023, 19:49 (474 dagen geleden) @ hoedendoosch

Thank you so much Pim for the excellent explanation.

This is the dial and it is written in Portuguese, which means that this model was exported to Portugal.

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Best wishes
Carlos

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From PORTUGAL, with regards
Carlos

identify the origin of this Philips Radio => Philips 592LNX

door hoedendoosch @, Amsterdam, 11.01.2023, 20:16 (474 dagen geleden) @ edison
Bewerkt door hoedendoosch, 11.01.2023, 20:22

Hello Carlos,

Yes, these radios are intended for export to Portugal. Nevertheless there is a strong similarity between some radios intended for Portugal and the Dutch East Indies. A very good example is the Philips 493AN (Portugal) and the 513AN (Indonesia). These radios are almost identical. The Philips 498AN (Portugal) and 518AN (Indonesia) are also almost identical... google it.

Your photo of the scale of the radio 592LNX proves my statement correct: 13 - 51 meters for short wave. Second (short) waverange is 165 - 560 meters.

Nice find. Take good care of it, these radios have a real history !!

Saudações, Pim da Holanda.

P.S: algumas rádios destinadas à Indonésia acabaram em Portugal. Talvez porque em fevereiro/março de 1942 a Indonésia foi ocupada pelos japoneses e os rádios ainda estavam prontos para serem exportados para a Indonésia. Por conveniência, enviaram-no apenas para Portugal. Um exemplo é o 513AN que também vi em Portugal. Este rádio foi realmente destinado à Indonésia.

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